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When I was going through one of the most difficult times in my life and thought nobody understood He had me read the 22 Psalm. That was a huge eye opener and drew me very close to Him.

I tried your link but it would not load the whole page. It stopped or hung-up after the blue bar across the top loaded and I’ve tried it in FireFox and Interenet Explorer.

Had a chance to look at a few others. Something to save up for :)

Thank you for your help!
We had our Purim celebration at out congregation tonight! And I made apricot cookies for the 1st time!

I have to admit I “cheated” a little because of the time (or lack there of)
I used slice & bake sugar cookies and Smucker’s Apricot Fruit Spread. But I did fold them in one three sides.
They turned out really good anyway and they didn’t last long at the dinner! :)

Hope yours is/was blessed too!

The liturgy I have known has always been what is used in the Methodist Church- The Apostle’s Creed, The Lord’s prayer, I’m they had a Method for everything.
The home meal prayer when like this G-d is great, G-d is good and with thank him for our food amen.

After your 1st year in the Methodist church – you knew exactly what sermons subjects you were going to hear and what songs you were going to sing, prayers you would say… for the rest of your life! YIKES!

The Catholic Church was worse in that regard – 5 Hail Mary’s, 10 Our Fathers… you get the idea.

The Baptist Church drove me nuts with singing 100′s of verses of a song called “Just as I am” at the end of every sermon.

I was taught that the Jewish way of praying so far, was going to be something like this…

Blessed are you O’L-rd our G-d, King of the Universe who returns our soul to us in the morning so we may live for you again amen. (am prayer)

Blessed are you O’L-rd our G-d King of the Universe who brings forth bread from the Earth and provides us with every good thing. (lunch prayer)

Blessed are you O’L-rd our G-d King of the universe, who holds and guards our soul through the night. amen (bedtime prayer)

I’m soo not into repetition!

What is amazing is that about a 3 years ago I had a co-worker of mine ask me to partner with her to read through the Bible cover to cover. We did this on our own during our lunch breaks – we only get a 1/2 break so we eat and read at the same time.

At night though I found myself “stuck” in the Psalms. I find it very comforting to read before pray and fall asleep for the night. So I have yet to read else where at night.

I’m not a morning person at all but I pray to him before my eyes even open and on my days off I love to start my day reading more of the Psalms.

Interesting how He worked all that into my life huh? :)

To daven simply means to pray (as in to recite liturgy). The set time prayers are called “standing prayers” – something even Yeshua alludes to when he says “when you stand praying.” Rods says “because one rises in the presence of the aged.” In addition, I believe it’s because “Abraham stood in the presence of HaShem” when the angels went to Sodom, since it was Mincha. AskMoses.com says its “to honor G-d.” Rods further explained that one kneels during Yom Kippur, and one only prostrates at the Temple.

Exodus 30:35-36
Make [the mixture] into incense, as compounded by a master perfumer, well-blended, pure and holy. Grind it very finely, and place it before the [Ark of] Testimony in the Communion Tent where I commune with you. It shall be holy of holies to you.

As you can see, the incense is called a “holy of holies” to you.

Psalm 141:2
May my prayer be set before you like incense; may the lifting up of my hands be like the evening sacrifice.

John explains:

Revelation 5:8
And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.

We know the “tamid” offering offered morning and evening, is when the incense is offered in the Temple. These are the times of prayer. “Tamid” means continual, thus in a Jewish mindset, the prayers of the morning and evening are called the tamid prayers, or “continual” prayers. Thus “pray continually” is a direct reference to the “tamid” or “continual” prayers of Shacharit and Mincha, and this is an expected teaching coming from Paul, a Pharisaic rabbi who “imitates Messiah.”

Since when is reading scripture “dry?” The rabbis say you can not daven if you have no chavenah – focus and sincere intent. Many coming from Protestantism don’t realize how much of a blessing they have been robbed by formerly eschewing all liturgy. Yet what many don’t realize is, that if you sing worship songs with others, you’re singing liturgy. What a better way to connect with the generations of ancient days, and sing the same liturgy they sang? There are times for liturgy (since when one prays the liturgy, they are praying scripture in most cases, and in all cases, are reciting the same thing by all other Jews in that timezone at the same time), and there are times for spontaneous prayer. In fact, during the liturgy, there are several places whereby one may enter into spontaneous prayer. In fact, doing the minimum of meeting with G-d as he desires, three times a day, I find those times to be the most powerful to launch into spontaneous prayer after the liturgy. The liturgy prepares our hearts and minds to meet with HaShem, and reminds us that we are to minister before HaShem on the earth. After we have engaged HaShem with the promises he gives us, outlined clearly in scripture, which we recite, we become echad (one) with HaShem so that as we pray during liturgy and spontaneously afterwards, our prayers are not laced with selfishness, but prayed within the very will of HaShem. In fact, there is no other sure way to know the will of HaShem than by reading scripture, since scripture is most certainly his will. Thus one can begin praying in the will of HaShem by praying scripture.

I want to learn the customs of our family, but when I do them I want to do them from my heart and do them in step with Adonai. I owe Him my soul… my very breath. He desires and deserves nothing less then that from me and that is what I plan to give Him as much as is within me.

Shalom my brother!

Thank you.

Quote: “…more than asking what is his prayer at the conclusion of the Amidah / Shimonei Esrei (18 Benedictions)”

Yeshua never sinned so why would he need to request forgiveness from His Father, by using the Lord’s prayer (or Amidah) as you suggested?

What is to “daven” and what does it have to do with kneeing or standing and where is that written that you must stand instead of kneel? If you have sinned you really need to be more humble before HaShem. The last time we see Yeshua praying in the garden, he was on the ground.

Quote:This offering of the incense is said by HaShem to be “a Holies of Holies to you.”
Torah location please?

I think you are taking 1 Thessalonians 5 out of context because he was not talking about temple worship, he is talking about keeping your prayer life active and clarifies this by verse 18 “give thanks in all circumstances, for this is G-d’s will for you in Christ Jesus.”

He repeats the same teaching in Ephesians 6:18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.

And my last question- how do you keep liturgical prayers from being dry and heartless or should you not use them, if you can not?