Comments on: Do I need to be circumcised?

By: Uziel

Uziel — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:08:45 +0000

Yes, if a Christian is of Abraham seed he is commandet to be circumcised and to practice the whole Torah and we should convert him. But if a so called ‘Mesianic Jew’ dosnt want to be circumcised then he is not a Torah observant = he is not a real Jew. Its not a matter of salvation is a matter of obedience. We should imitate Rabenu Yeshua as an example of Torah observance.

Circumcition is a blood covenant, its a simbol of the whole covenant. If the circumsition was not a Jewish circumsition then there have to be a drawn of blood (a drop – dam berit) from the area to give the circumsition the new spiritual meening. To make it a blood covenant with Hashem, is needed at least a drop of blood for that purpose.

By: Israel b. Betzalel

Israel b. Betzalel — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:50:38 +0000

Uziel, if a Christian is of Abraham seed, he is commanded by Torah to get circumcised for all those in Abraham’s house are to be circumcised.

Jakes, according to orthodoxy you would need to be re-circumcised, however there is no such precedent in the Torah.

By: Jakes

Jakes — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:14:48 +0000

What about where one was circumcised earlier in life for other reasons and it had nothing to do with obeying Torah. What does one do in case such as this?

By: Uziel

Uziel — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 15:36:31 +0000

I believe that to a Christian there is no need for circumcision but for an observant Jew who believe in Mashiach its not only necesary it is a mitzvah. If you dont want to be circumsised, be christian!!!

By: Israel b. Betzalel

Israel b. Betzalel — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:51:07 +0000

A medical circumcision alone does not meet the orthodox criteria for conversion. You must go through a brit in order to complete your conversion. Paul warned against going through a brit for the wrong reason (salvation by Jewish identity alone), but he certainly had Timothy, his student, go through a brit for the right reasons (obedience to HaShem and the community). Getting circumcised is an act of obedience if you are a male, and it reminds us in our flesh that the Messiah did not come through man, but of the woman. Should you go through the brit and complete your conversion to Messianic Judaism? Only if you want to be obedient to HaShem.

By: Harry Case

Harry Case — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:23:30 +0000

I am a gentile who was circumcised as an infant (in accordance with the common medical practice of the day) so this is a decision I don’t have to make for myself. At 14 I accepted Yeshua as my savior. I was immersed in the name of Yeshua at 18. Is it your view that, as a believer in Yeshua as Messiah, I should still undergo conversion to Messianic Judaism? I still find this hard to accept in light of Paul’s warnings against it.

By: viola rogers

viola rogers — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:47:41 +0000

A commandment is a commandment. Do we obey God or what? Yeshua is the word of God made flesh. He was circumcised. When I have my sons, Lord willing they will be circumcised as according to the commandment.

By: Israel

Israel — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:40:33 +0000

I have removed your anti-circumcision sites from your post to deal with the issue at hand.

Circumcision is commanded for all generations, and reminds us that the Messiah does not come from a man. Whether its painful or not, we choose to submit to the Word of HaShem regarding this matter, and not to the fears of men who make themselves God by promoting a practice that is nothing more than a repeat of the generation in the wilderness that didn’t circumcise their sons. Reminder: all that generation died in the desert and did not inherit the Land.

By: Mark Lyndon

Mark Lyndon — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:15:49 +0000

Not all Jewish people believe in circumcision. Brit Shalom is an alternative naming ceremony to celebrate the birth of baby boys to Jewish families. These sites are all run by Jewish people opposed to circumcision:

The form of circumcision undergone changed around 1900 years ago btw. A Jewish man before then would have looked more like an intact man than someone who has had a modern Jewish circumcision.

By: Rods Bobavich

Rods Bobavich — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 00:40:25 +0000

It’s so easy to get into the brain-twisting, word-bending excuses on these things. I guess it’s your life and you can play mental gymnastics if you want, but I don’t understand why you would want to… Besides it’s an uphill battle. You can’t say G-d doesn’t care about circumcision when He threatens to kill Moses because he “forgot” to circumcise his son. He commanded circumcision for anyone eating Passover so it’s really hypocritical to say He doesn’t care about it. I guess you could say it was only important to G-d back then and not now but you’d have to explain how G-d changes when He’s not supposed to change… Ugh! Too much mental gymnastics for me! Why bother?

When you encounter a command like this is your first thought obedience or avoidance? It’s really indicative to the allegiance in your heart. “Did G-d really say I have to?” was the first road to sin. Remember the serpent? Any time we start down that line of reasoning it’s certainly not inspired by anything heavenly. Even a rebel child will do something if he HAS TO. But when you don’t have to obey why wouldn’t you still WANT TO? Love is defined by the things that we want to do even though we don’t have to do them. Lust is defined by the things we want to do even when they are forbidden.

Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with our hard line stance. (And really it’s not all that hard line – none of us see circumcision as a prerequisite for salvation…) Regardless of where you stand, my request is that you examine your heart. Are you looking through the eyes of obedience or the eyes of a rebel? Just be honest with yourself. In the end the issue is between you and G-d. No skin off me. But I hope you learn to desire obedience more than anything so that you may walk in blessing all of your days.

…Rods ;-)